2006.11.18 NOTE: THIS UPDATED TO REFLECT ANOTHER UNC WIN OVER STATE AS BY  UNC 23 NC State 09

Subject: Mediocrity Bowl?
From: don@donredding.com
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:14:05 -0500
To: Tom Sorensen

Hi there Tom Sorensen
 

Tom Sorensen <tsorensen@charlotteobserver.com>
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Tom, not sure I should send this but you (10/05) said to go ahead. I  think  ncstate has not done as well as folks think against unc and I will try to  support this premise by commenting in your "expect" vs "hope" format.
 

Summary: Unc expects to win always against ncstate and usually does. ncstate's main goal is to beat unc over all other teams  and usually they have failed for hundreds of years - well at least since 1894 in football and since 1913 in basketball.

    1. Excel and Expect?
      1. Maybe you meant your article to be broader than  unc vs ncstate but I took at least part of it to be a state/unc thing. You say unc does not want to excel in football.  You indicate UNC fans do not expect to win. You say ncsate expects to win. As far as specifically unc vs. ncstate is concerned I think otherwise
        • I have been a Wolfpack Club member since 1967 or 1974 (I forget) and been to many Wolfpack Club meetings. ncstate is obsessed with beating unc over anyone else. ncstate HOPES  to win - at least against UNC  - and that is their number one goal - nothing else seems to matter; the record is clear however about who has done the most winning over the years against the other. Go to one of their meetings - they are crazy over the success of unc - especially Amato and Yow -  and I bet most of nc state's football coaches are fired because they can't beat unc. The meetings are a discuss Carolina event. At unc's ram's club meetings ncstate is barely mentioned. Check it out yourself - do the same in all sports. So which team does it appear expects to win - and which team DOES win?
        • UNC expects to beat ncstate always and has done it consistently for over 100 years in football (in total unc has won 62 times and state 27) and  for 92 years in basketball (UNC has won 130, state 74) plus in all the other sports. Just thought,  check the Sears Cup standings to see where state is overall. UNC does not "hope" to beat state, UNC knows it will beat state and the record proves it. That is my definition of "expect."
        •  I and many of my friends give lots of money and effort to the unc program. I endowed a scholarship, I gave money to help build the  new facilities, I have not missed a home football game since 1953 except for a couple when I had 3x by pass surgery and  a few games when my son played little league ball on saturdays. I have served as a ram rep and to encourage others to give. I meet with my scholarship holder and offer support and encouragement  to him to excel in athletics, academics, and life. Many other fans do the same. We put our money  where our mouth is; sure ncstate spends money too, but  unc was the leader. (Is all this spending "good," that is another discussion as I might  have done better to put the money in  the stock market or more charitable causes.) I raise cain about the academic and court record of some of our athletes.  How you can say unc fans do not want to excel is discouraging and surprising.  I do want us to excel and I try to make it happen with my support - money and otherwise.
        • (Re the scholarship I give, today I received a thank you note from the player at UNC  who  my scholarship supports and it reminded me that I never got this letter back to you. He is a neat kid, so young as they all are, and a substitute who has been switched from wide receiver to  the secondary. He said my help to him was a blessing and that choked me up.  I think we forget about some things in our quest for the BCS Bowls etc., and  the fact that some kids do get an education  or chance at one is sometimes overlooked. Anyway, I care fiercely about winning and am putting my money where that part of my heart is but it is kinda nice to hear this message from a young man in the middle of a tough year.) See him at      http://tarheelblue.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bethea_bryan00.html
        • going back, unc has won vs. state - from 2006 to the beginning, for example, unc has won 11 out of the last 18 games back to 1987
          • three out of three (2006, 2005, 2004)
          • three out of four (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003 and etc to the beginning of the ACC)
          • 3 out of 5,
          • 4 out of 6,
          • 5 out of 7
          • 6 out of 8
          • 7 out of 9
          • 8 out of 10
          • 9 out of 11
          • 10 out of 12
          • 11 out of 13
          • 11 out of 18
          • 12 out of 19
          • 12 out of 20
          • 13 out of 21
          • 14 out of 22
          • 15 out of 23
          • 16 out of 24
          • 17 out of 25
          • 18 out of 26
          • 19 out of 27
          • 19 of 28
          • 20 of 29
          • 20 of 30
          • 20 of 31
          • 20 of 32
          • 21 of 33
          • 21 of 34
          • 22 of 35
          • 23 of 36
          • 23 of 37
          • 23 of 38
          • 23 of 39
          • 24 of 40
          • 25 of 41
          • 25 of 42
          • 26 of 43
          • 26 of 44
          • 27 of 45
          • 27 of 46
          • 28 of 47
          • 28 of 48
          • 28 of 49
          • 28 of 50
          • 29 of 51
          • 30 of 52
          • 31 of 53
          • 32 of 54 (beginning of ACC)
          • >From 1894 to 1951 state won 5 games and lost 31 to unc.


Anyway, these are my comments for what they are worth. Now that I "know" you, your articles have a special meaning to me. Just doing this short  email reminds me how hard it is to write!  Thanks
 

Thank you

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